# Episode 272: 272. What if work was about purpose, not survival? With Louise Hill, Founder of GoHenry, and Ruth Handcock OBE, CEO of Octopus Money

- **Date:** 2026-02-03
- **Guests:** Louise Hill, GoHenry, Ruth Handcock OBE
- **Duration:** 3554s
- **Listen:** https://truthliesandwork.com/272

## Segments (24)

- [Intro: Work has shifted from ambition to survival](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/segments/272-intro-work-has-shifted-from-ambition-to-survival.md) — intro, start 33s · [listen](https://truthliesandwork.com/272?t=33)
- [Introducing Louise Hill and Ruth Handcock OBE](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/segments/272-introducing-louise-hill-and-ruth-handcock-obe.md) — intro, start 143s · [listen](https://truthliesandwork.com/272?t=143)
- [What financial literacy actually means](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/segments/272-what-financial-literacy-actually-means.md) — panel-interview, start 258s · [listen](https://truthliesandwork.com/272?t=258)
- [Why 2 people on the same salary can live completely different financial lives](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/segments/272-why-2-people-on-the-same-salary-can-live-completely-different-financial-lives.md) — panel-interview, start 381s · [listen](https://truthliesandwork.com/272?t=381)
- [The role of the safety net in career risk-taking](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/segments/272-the-role-of-the-safety-net-in-career-risk-taking.md) — panel-interview, start 496s · [listen](https://truthliesandwork.com/272?t=496)
- [Social mobility: less about discrimination, more about confidence](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/segments/272-social-mobility-less-about-discrimination-more-about-confidence.md) — panel-interview, start 641s · [listen](https://truthliesandwork.com/272?t=641)
- [The Cambridge study: money habits formed by age 7](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/segments/272-the-cambridge-study-money-habits-formed-by-age-7.md) — panel-interview, start 753s · [listen](https://truthliesandwork.com/272?t=753)
- [Ruth's anecdote: new starters at Octopus Money](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/segments/272-ruth-s-anecdote-new-starters-at-octopus-money.md) — panel-interview, start 808s · [listen](https://truthliesandwork.com/272?t=808)
- [Case studies from families using GoHenry](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/segments/272-case-studies-from-families-using-gohenry.md) — panel-interview, start 935s · [listen](https://truthliesandwork.com/272?t=935)
- [Who books a financial coaching session? The workplace pattern](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/segments/272-who-books-a-financial-coaching-session-the-workplace-pattern.md) — panel-interview, start 1099s · [listen](https://truthliesandwork.com/272?t=1099)
- [The gender split in financial confidence](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/segments/272-the-gender-split-in-financial-confidence.md) — panel-interview, start 1183s · [listen](https://truthliesandwork.com/272?t=1183)
- [Why having a financial plan is the root of confidence](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/segments/272-why-having-a-financial-plan-is-the-root-of-confidence.md) — panel-interview, start 1296s · [listen](https://truthliesandwork.com/272?t=1296)
- [Short-term plans vs long-term plans](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/segments/272-short-term-plans-vs-long-term-plans.md) — panel-interview, start 1498s · [listen](https://truthliesandwork.com/272?t=1498)
- [Setting money confidence in place from an early age](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/segments/272-setting-money-confidence-in-place-from-an-early-age.md) — panel-interview, start 1690s · [listen](https://truthliesandwork.com/272?t=1690)
- [Why financial wellbeing is a no-brainer for employers](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/segments/272-why-financial-wellbeing-is-a-no-brainer-for-employers.md) — panel-interview, start 1855s · [listen](https://truthliesandwork.com/272?t=1855)
- [Louise's story: the webinars leaders didn't want to run](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/segments/272-louise-s-story-the-webinars-leaders-didn-t-want-to-run.md) — panel-interview, start 1978s · [listen](https://truthliesandwork.com/272?t=1978)
- [First practical step for leaders: normalise it](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/segments/272-first-practical-step-for-leaders-normalise-it.md) — panel-interview, start 2020s · [listen](https://truthliesandwork.com/272?t=2020)
- [Al's story: bankrupt in 2008](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/segments/272-al-s-story-bankrupt-in-2008.md) — panel-interview, start 2132s · [listen](https://truthliesandwork.com/272?t=2132)
- [What would change if everyone felt financially confident?](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/segments/272-what-would-change-if-everyone-felt-financially-confident.md) — panel-interview, start 2279s · [listen](https://truthliesandwork.com/272?t=2279)
- [Work gives people a huge amount of purpose](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/segments/272-work-gives-people-a-huge-amount-of-purpose.md) — panel-interview, start 2368s · [listen](https://truthliesandwork.com/272?t=2368)
- [Success norms: the habits that shape us](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/segments/272-success-norms-the-habits-that-shape-us.md) — panel-interview, start 2422s · [listen](https://truthliesandwork.com/272?t=2422)
- [Shout-out to Perks](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/segments/272-shout-out-to-perks.md) — panel-interview, start 2635s · [listen](https://truthliesandwork.com/272?t=2635)
- [Are there other countries doing financial education well?](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/segments/272-are-there-other-countries-doing-financial-education-well.md) — panel-interview, start 2674s · [listen](https://truthliesandwork.com/272?t=2674)
- [Where to find Louise and Ruth](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/segments/272-where-to-find-louise-and-ruth.md) — outro, start 2815s · [listen](https://truthliesandwork.com/272?t=2815)