# Summer series kickoff and introduction to Alexis Zahner

- **Episode:** [113](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/episodes/113.md) (2024-07-09)
- **Type:** intro
- **Tags:** summer-series, introduction, alexis-zahner
- **Time:** 0:33–4:56 (start 33s)
- **Listen:** [https://truthliesandwork.com/113?t=33](https://truthliesandwork.com/113?t=33)

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[0:33] Al Elliott: Nice. Check out hopspot.com, the agentic customer platform for growing businesses
[0:37] Leanne Elliott: Hello and welcome to Truth, Lies and Work, the award-winning psychology podcast Brought to you by the HubSpot Podcast Network, the audio destination for business professionals. My name is Leanne. I'm a Chartered Occupational Psychologist
[0:58] Al Elliott: The first time you've said that
[1:00] Leanne Elliott: Yeah
[1:01] Al Elliott: My name is Al, and I am an official business owner. I'm not really, I'm just a business owner
[1:06] Leanne Elliott: We are here to help you simplify the science of work
[1:09] Al Elliott: The reason why Leanne is the first time Leanne said that is because you were notified that you were chartered about 5 days ago
[1:15] Leanne Elliott: Yeah, I think it was Just the day after, um, or a couple days after the episode we released on, on the very topic, what is a business psychologist? Um, so yeah, there you go. I'm, I'm, I said in the episode actually that Al might not like it so much because it doesn't have the same kind of catchiness, does it? Business psychologist, business owner, some first signs of work
[1:36] Al Elliott: Well, I'm, I'm gonna go for chartership of business owners, then I can be a chartered business— actually, I don't think you can do that. Just a professional idiot. This is a Tuesday episode, which usually means it's Leanne and I chatting about what's new in world of work. Uh, we have our workplace surgery, et cetera, et cetera. But we're gonna change things up in July. Over the next couple of weeks, we're gonna be doing something a little bit differently. The reason is that when I go on holiday in August, like we're gonna have August off pretty much, we're just gonna do a pod and that's it. Um, then I like to listen to lots of stories, lots of interviews, all that kind of stuff. And we thought, why not just pile up your, your queue by having lots and lots of interview episodes? So that's what we're doing in July. July is chock-a-block full of interview episodes
[2:19] Leanne Elliott: Yeah, so this is kind of the start of our special summer schedule. Long-term listeners will know we did a similar thing last year and shook it up a little bit. Had some quite fun episodes there in terms of— what did we do? The psychology of happiness
[2:31] Al Elliott: Yep
[2:32] Leanne Elliott: Um, other little more lighthearted stuff. So yes, we're going to be bringing you, um, for the next 8 weeks a slightly different schedule. For July, we will still be on 2 episodes a week, but both of those episodes will be bringing you interviews with incredible guests. So you can download them, download them all and binge when you're on holiday, or they can Vacation for American listeners. Um, and then of course, fear not, I know you're gonna miss Al and I. We'll be back soon. We'll be back in August, Tuesday episodes. Or will it be on a Thursday, Al?
[3:02] Al Elliott: Probably a Tuesday. I don't know
[3:04] Leanne Elliott: I don't know. Don't know
[3:05] Alexis Zahner: Exciting
[3:05] Leanne Elliott: We don't know. We'll decide. But Tuesday, normal format episode, just Al and I, things we've seen, weekly surgery. We're gonna keep it all a bit more lighthearted, a bit of banter, uh, nothing too heavy for the summer holidays. And of course, I should also then apologize to our listeners and friends in the southern hemisphere who are actually now going into the depths of winter. So, but because we're in the north, our schedule kind of goes with it. So yeah, we don't, we don't mean to exclude you
[3:35] Al Elliott: Of course, the other good thing about August is that we will just turn up and do one podcast episode a week so we can have the rest of August off. We live in Europe. We, that's what we do. No one works in August in Europe. So, uh, you may see us turning up with a couple of margaritas as well. Let's see
[3:51] Leanne Elliott: I'm not sure about that, Al. Maybe
[3:54] Al Elliott: Slippery slope
[3:55] Leanne Elliott: Slippery, slippery slope. But maybe one after we've recorded. Why not? Anyway, let's get into the good stuff. Our guest today, speaking of people from the Southern Hemisphere, our guest is indeed from the Southern Hemisphere. Um, she played football at a very, very high level in Australia at a young age. It seemed that she had it all, but looking back, she realized that she was actually quite a toxic person at that stage of her life. Interesting admission there
[4:24] Al Elliott: Just to be clear, that's her words, not ours
[4:26] Leanne Elliott: Her innate competitive nature meant that she would try and win at any cost. Then a few things happened that ended up with her moving 8,000 miles from Australia to Canada and completely reinventing herself. It was her experience at the retailer Patagonia that helped her realize her mission in this world was not to win, but to others become better leaders. So let's go and meet the co-founder of Human Leaders, the incredible Alexis Zahner