# If my people are having fun, what does that do for my business?

- **Episode:** [119](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/episodes/119.md) (2024-07-30)
- **Type:** interview
- **Tags:** employee-culture, business-impact, fun-at-work
- **Time:** 20:03–23:41 (start 1203s)
- **Listen:** [https://truthliesandwork.com/119?t=1203](https://truthliesandwork.com/119?t=1203)

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[20:03] Lee Rubin: Well, there's kind of 2 things that I like to point out that I I think help with those kinds of conversations. So like, one of them is if when you look at sports teams and specifically like championship-winning sports teams, and they're in that, you know, they have the trophy in their hand and they're being interviewed by the different journalists and they're like, what, you know, what ultimately brought this success upon your team? Everybody always attributes it to the chemistry. that the team has. Because at that point, you know, everybody is so talented. But, but really the chemistry is what, what makes teams, I think, have a stronger competitive advantage than others. And then the second thing that I— it's just a quote that I really like, but if you're familiar with Plato, it says you can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation. And I think what happens with these experiences is that they just really provide an opportunity for relationship building in a more relaxed setting that are outside of the confines of like the work talk. It's why we go on dates and vacations with our significant others. It's, you know, to take time away from not just talking about the kids and work and the logistics of cleaning the house and everything else. It's like, hey, you know, it's like going on through your brain and, you know, recognizing people as humans. And those relationships just establish a better sense of belonging. It yields to an increased level of productivity, morale. And I also think, as I mentioned, it just leads to more humanization in the office because one of the types of like experiences that I really like to see at Confetti is companies that allow a plus-one scenario where they allow their, you know, kids, dogs, significant others, roommates to whoever to, to join in on the call. And it's like all of a sudden you're like, oh yeah, like we all have these lives outside of work. These were dog moms or fathers or whatever we are. And it just kind of like reminds us that we're, we're all on a planet like spinning in the middle of nowhere for— and to take things a little bit more into perspective. Yeah
[22:30] Al Elliott: Proportion. If I was putting one of these on, I might be a little bit worried that there'd be too much play and not enough, I want to get this done in the event. What am I getting wrong about my mindset when I'm worried about that?
[22:42] Lee Rubin: Well, I think that these events are meant to be pure fun. So, I mean, you should still have some kind of objective or goal, but the objective or goal should be, you know, having people get to know each other a little bit better, like from Like a networking perspective, if you have a very large team, or simply like having fun, or maybe it being de-stressing, and maybe you guys had a really stressful quarter. So this is actually a great time to, to not talk about work. Just make it purely about like the cultural objective that you're trying to achieve amongst your teammates and kind of just Ending to that, but like, we forget that our coworkers are our teammates. But when you're literally teammates with someone on a game, it's this like reminder to take this work stuff just a little less seriously and just strengthening the bond of like the connections, the chemistry that you guys have