# Education requirements on job descriptions

- **Episode:** [135](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/episodes/135.md) (2024-10-10)
- **Type:** panel-interview
- **Tags:** job-descriptions, education-requirements, hiring, tech-jobs
- **Time:** 29:37–33:58 (start 1777s)
- **Listen:** [https://truthliesandwork.com/135?t=1777](https://truthliesandwork.com/135?t=1777)

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[29:37] Nick Korte: Looking at some job descriptions at different companies out there. What's on those from a required education, required experience for, you know, you can do the research in the community groups, whether that's in person. There are also online forums, whether that's Reddit, Spiceworks community, or others. Other vendors have forums that you can look out in and meet people on. But I can research it by meeting people individually. I can research it by looking at job descriptions. And then I can sort of stay on top of that over time. And there are those internship and boot camp type things. We mentioned the Tech Academy that Eric Gross runs. There's also, if you're a cybersecurity person or think you're interested in cybersecurity, there's Ellington Cyber Academy that a former guest of ours, Kenneth Ellington, started to help people get into cybersecurity. And it's one of those, I would say, more the journeyman-master type approach that John highlighted, helping that person learn and give what they call a capstone presentation of here's the security risk in this environment and how we mitigated it, how it got in, and being able to communicate those findings to people who work in cybersecurity. So I think a lot of people in our industry want to help get more talent in. And some of it might just be giving yourself the chance to connect the dots between you and someone who's looking for the skills you have
[31:21] John White: Again, going back and answering a previous question, right? What are the different types of jobs that are available and how do you find out about them? The very easy way to find out about that is to go to all the companies that you can think of or names that you see on the sides of buildings, go to their job sites and see what kinds of technology jobs that they are hiring, and you will get a good snapshot of the types of jobs that that company hires for. And when you look at enough of those, you know, not that you are trying to necessarily apply for them right away, but you'll understand the types of jobs that are out there and the types of things that are very typically advertised for, like database administration, Network administration, network engineering, database engineering. You know, administration/engineering/architecture is, you know, with various technologies as a prefix. And going through and reading what the requirements are. And a lot of times that's going to be in jargon that you don't necessarily understand. And that is Anytime you see jargon that you don't understand, we have this magical thing called Google where you can go look up what that is and dive in, see if that's something that's interesting. All these companies are just publicly telling you what it is that they actually hire for. And don't stop at just one company, don't go more than maybe 20, But, you know, look and see what's being hired for, and that will be a pretty good indicator of, of the types of jobs that are available. And when you don't understand a job, that's also another gift, you know. We have another tool that you can, you know, take part in— LinkedIn, right? Join LinkedIn and then look for that title. Or look for technology, look for somebody who does that job or has that expertise in their LinkedIn, and then reach out to them and say, hey, I'm just investigating this industry. What is this? Ask for an informational interview basically, right? Do you have 15 minutes to tell me what this is to a layperson who's not in the industry who's trying to understand? And a lot of people are willing to give their time to do that