# The pub conversation and complaining about bad managers

- **Episode:** [143](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/episodes/143.md) (2024-11-07)
- **Type:** other
- **Tags:** bad-manager, complaining, workplace-culture
- **Time:** 16:53–20:23 (start 1013s)
- **Listen:** [https://truthliesandwork.com/143?t=1013](https://truthliesandwork.com/143?t=1013)

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[16:53] Al Elliott: Is it possible that they're in the pub complaining about their bad manager for 2 reasons? First of all, because it creates commonality amongst your friends and family because everyone's got a bad manager. And secondly, perhaps, is it taking the Taking the onus off them to find a job they enjoy is saying, I would enjoy this job, but it's the bad manager. That's what's making it bad
[19:01] Al Elliott: Yeah
[20:08] Al Elliott: It can
[20:12] Al Elliott: I am. Go and listen to Lunch wherever you get your podcasts
[20:16] Leanne Elliott: But come back
[20:17] Al Elliott: Yeah, come back. Definitely come back because Nudge isn't as good as this, so come back. I'll cut that out. Keep that in