# What John would think of all this

- **Episode:** [17](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/episodes/17.md) (2022-12-20)
- **Type:** other
- **Tags:** mentor, reflection, legacy
- **Time:** 47:40–49:30 (start 2860s)
- **Listen:** [https://truthliesandwork.com/17?t=2860](https://truthliesandwork.com/17?t=2860)

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[47:40] Leanne Elliott: That question needs a trigger warning, Al. Yeah, I think he'd find it a laugh. I think he'd find it really funny because my journey with Pinnacle ended with— I should also just say, like, I did end up getting promoted to a position above the one I was demoted from. That's how good Jon was as a mentor. He was like, right, let's do this. So yeah, so my time with Pinnacle ended on a high in terms of what we achieved, low in terms of the contract was ending and I was subsequently made redundant. At that point, we'd been living in Spain for 2 years, never coming back to the UK. Jon was such a progressive leader. Bear in mind, the man was in like his 60s at this point
[48:27] Al Elliott: Wow
[48:30] Leanne Elliott: He would have found it a laugh. I remember him saying to me, he's like, maybe there's a time that you just, you know, have a portfolio career, or, you know, start your own business, or travel the world to live life, do the work you love. I think he'd find it a real giggle that we'd been to so many different places and lived in different parts of the world and do what we do now. Yeah, I'm sad that he's not here to see it. I'm sad that he's not here to guide me. Um, but yeah, I think he'd be proud. I think he'd be as proud of what we've achieved personally, um, as much as what we've achieved professionally. Um, he was all about that work-life balance. Family is important. It's not all about work. Um, so yeah, I think he would. I think he'd We'd have a good chat over a couple of pints and, yeah, reminisce about the good old days, the bad old days, and how far we'd come