# Cait's free self-diagnosis exercise and words of wisdom

- **Episode:** [185](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/episodes/185.md) (2025-04-03)
- **Type:** interview
- **Tags:** self-diagnosis, exercise, burnout
- **Time:** 44:30–47:32 (start 2670s)
- **Listen:** [https://truthliesandwork.com/185?t=2670](https://truthliesandwork.com/185?t=2670)

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[44:30] Cait Donovan: Yeah, they can grab this exercise actually. If they go to caitdonovan.com/freebie-web, W-E-B, they can download this worksheet and do this worksheet on their own, the one that we've been talking about this whole time. So that's available to people. Whenever they want it
[44:49] Leanne Elliott: What words of wisdom, reassurance, guidance, advice would you give anyone listening right now who is struggling?
[44:56] Cait Donovan: You know how Michelle Obama said, when they go low, we go high, right? In this scenario, I think when things get too big, we go small. And that means to me that we refocus our energy on our core base needs, start meeting our core base needs, Eliminate some of the— it used to be that only one side had a ton of fake news. Now there's fake news all over the place. So you're getting riled up about things that are not even true, no matter which side you're on. It's like pulling back from some of the allowance and space and time that you're giving to things that may or may not even be true. I am paying attention to everything, but I have a very limited period of time in my day. Where I sit down, I look at as neutral news as I can find. I know what's going on in that day, and then I move on. Go back to the very core basics of nourishing your human body. Remember that you are human, that you have a body to live in. Go back to those basic things. You do them, it affects a certain area of your brain that allows you better management of the big stuff
[46:07] Leanne Elliott: Cait, where can our listeners Find you to learn more about you, your work, absorb more of your wisdom?
[46:13] Cait Donovan: Everything can be found through Fried the Burnout Podcast. It's friedtheburnoutpodcast.com or Fried the Burnout Podcast anywhere you listen to podcasts
[46:21] Al Elliott: Well, that was the amazing Cait Donovan, burnout expert and host of Fried the Burnout Podcast. If the 6 Buckets approach resonates with you, definitely go and check out our website at caitdonovan.com. That's Cait with a C, C-A-I-T donovan.com. I wonder if she knows Jason Donovan or Terence Donovan from Neighbours. Anyway, different conversation, different day. And download that free worksheet she mentioned. The link is in the show notes. Oh, and one last thing. The major lesson I think we need to take from this is it's not just about powering through on your own. Asking for help is actually the number one action that increases resilience. Talking of asking for help, if you enjoyed this episode, would you consider clicking that subscribe button wherever you get your podcasts? Or if you're on YouTube, then the button should be somewhere down there. Um, or you could share it maybe with a colleague who might be showing signs of burnout if you feel comfortable doing that. Or the other thing is, if you just, you could just write a quick post on LinkedIn saying how much you enjoyed it. You don't have to disclose anything about burnout. If you tag both us, Truth, Lies and Work, and Cait Donovan in, then I'm sure we'll share your posts with our lovely listeners
[47:19] Leanne Elliott: We will. And we will see you on Tuesday for our regular episode with our weekly news roundup, our spicy hot take, and our world-famous workplace surgery where Al puts your questions to me
[47:29] Al Elliott: Have a fabulous weekend and we'll see you soon. Bye-bye