# How Amit wants the world of work to change

- **Episode:** [191](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/episodes/191.md) (2025-04-24)
- **Type:** interview
- **Tags:** workplace-change, leadership, future-of-work
- **Time:** 38:59–42:10 (start 2339s)
- **Listen:** [https://truthliesandwork.com/191?t=2339](https://truthliesandwork.com/191?t=2339)

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[38:59] Al Elliott: So let's just talk about what, how you want the world to be. You've obviously got experience of business, you've got experience of working, of employment, you've got experience of being a father. Imagine that you could mandate that all organizations have to do certain things for fathers. What would that look like?
[39:18] Amit Singh Kalley: I think I just want organizations to be more than work. I think the definition of work needs looking at and needs changing. I want organizations to be something, you know, a lot of people spend more of their time in their place of work than they do in their home if they're based in office. And I just want organizations to take more responsibility for looking after the wellbeing of their employees, whether that's dads, women, whether that's disabled, neurodiverse, race, gender, whatever it is, you know, just Provide a space where everybody is able to thrive both at work and at home because you will, you know, there are studies out there that show that productivity goes up when staff feel that they are cared about by their employers. And so yeah, the ideal world for me would be a workplace that looks out for its staff and treats its staff with dignity, creates environments where compassion and empathy can thrive. Whether you do that through DEI, whether you do that through financial benefits, however you do it, listen to what your staff are saying and act on it
[40:29] Al Elliott: The business sort of future of the next 12 to 18 months feels like it's gonna be tough for business. There's, you know, interest rates continue to be high. It feels like inflation, everything's just stopping people from spending money. It's more and more difficult to make money. in business. If what we're saying is that we have all these added pressures to be profitable and to build, but we also need to put resources into making the workplace a great place, I can see some people going, I don't have the money to make it a great place. Is there anything you can do which wouldn't cost me money as a business owner?
[41:07] Amit Singh Kalley: Well, firstly, just on the money part, I think, um, there's gotta be some long-sighted views here, which is that if you invest in your staff, They're more likely to be more productive for you and therefore increase money that you might be getting back out of them depending on the nature of your business. But yeah, there are things that staff companies can do for free. Flexible working doesn't cost an employer a penny. If somebody says, I need to log off at 3:30 to go and collect my kids, can I log back in at 6:30?
[41:38] Al Elliott: Who cares?
[41:39] Amit Singh Kalley: Does it really matter unless they're client-facing and they have really important meetings they've got to attend? Does it matter if they work from 6:30 to 9:30 in the evening, but it suits them better? It makes their life easier and it makes them value you as an employer more. So I think there are a number of things that organizations can do for free that will just, you know, small changes that makes your employees feel better, feel more valued, feel like they're able to, excuse me, balance their work and personal life better. Why wouldn't we do it?