# Where to find out more about Mind and wrap-up

- **Episode:** [195](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/episodes/195.md) (2025-05-08)
- **Type:** outro
- **Tags:** mind-charity, resources, podcast-wrap-up
- **Time:** 45:18–49:32 (start 2718s)
- **Listen:** [https://truthliesandwork.com/195?t=2718](https://truthliesandwork.com/195?t=2718)

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[45:18] Al Elliott: Yeah
[45:19] Sarah Hughes: to mental health. This is an all-society deal. I think we want to see people able to access help when they need it. And I think that we are so far away from that in a way, but there is huge potential. And I think that we can drive some of that change. And there are lots of opportunities already appearing that might help us land that. And effectively, you know, ultimately, I believe that charities shouldn't exist. You know, that, that, that in, we should, as a nation, be able to live in perfect harmony with each other, with respect and dignity. And, you know, but, you know, until that point, we will keep fighting for fairness and dignity, respect, uh, people not to be discriminated on and that, and we just won't stop
[46:07] Leanne Elliott: If people want to find out more about Mind, support Mind, contribute to Mind's mission, where can they go and what types of things can they get involved in?
[46:17] Sarah Hughes: Oh my gosh, there's so much. So there's a number of things really. So we've got, uh, you can go to our pages, our web pages, and there's a whole ream of things. You can be an ambassador, you can be a fundraiser, you can be a campaigner, you can be one of our facilitators, you can join some of our volunteer programs, you can volunteer in our shops. Um, you know, you can do all sorts of things. You can Help us make sure that your workplace gets the mental health at work commitments. There are all sorts of things that people can do. It's not just all about donating a fiver. Although people donating a fiver is very, very welcome. But it's all about spreading the word of Mind, that piece about we can prevent some of the mental illness that we're seeing, and it's not impossible to provide people with good care. And, uh, you know, we want people to be sharing that message, get behind the movement, campaign, lobby their MP, tell their local, you know, commissioning group that fund all of the healthcare, you know, we want them to get involved, have their say, fight for mental health. You know, I think that, you know, without doubt, the difference that we've made to society as a whole mental health community, which is effectively built on the shoulders of people with lived experience, um, that, you know, we've spoken about mental health and we've increased the conversation, but now we really need to help people get to the next stage and not get locked into this kind of, you know, idea that, that mental health is just this and forget about people with more serious, enduring, life-threatening conditions
[48:04] Al Elliott: We hope you enjoyed that conversation. Sarah brings such an important voice to the mental health conversation, especially when it comes to getting what workplaces get wrong and what they need to rethink
[48:14] Leanne Elliott: Yeah, we hope you got as much out of that as we did. And, and what really stuck with me from the conversation is how Sarah does really cut through the noise. She's not here for the box ticking or surface level wellbeing stuff. She is really challenging us to think harder about what's actually going on in our workplaces, how we're supporting people, what assumptions we're making about serious mental illness. And whether the culture we're creating is really helping anyone
[48:41] Al Elliott: If you wanna learn more about Mind or check out the resources, we've added the details to the show notes. And if you like the unfiltered interview feel, then go back to episodes, I think they're 161 to about 166, and you'll hear our unedited versions of interviews with cool people like Dr. Ryan Martin, Professor Sir Ceri Cooper, and Bruce Daisley. Just a reminder, we're back next week as normal with a brand new guest interview. Back on YouTube as well, so make sure you're following us in your podcast app. If you want to join the conversation, you can find all our contact details in the show notes. We really genuinely do love hearing from you
[49:13] Leanne Elliott: We do, and if anyone has sent a message or an email over the last week and for whatever reason didn't get some kind of out-of-office response, soz wasn't ignoring you, wasn't ghosting you, just been on the holidays
[49:25] Al Elliott: Yes, thank you so much for listening. We are having a whale of a time in Spain, or we're not. We'll tell you about it if we're not when we get back, and we'll see you next time. Bye-bye. Bye