# Outro: Where to find Kristyna and what's coming next

- **Episode:** [202](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/episodes/202.md) (2025-06-03)
- **Type:** outro
- **Tags:** podcast-outro, upcoming-episodes
- **Time:** 58:25–60:33 (start 3505s)
- **Listen:** [https://truthliesandwork.com/202?t=3505](https://truthliesandwork.com/202?t=3505)

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[58:25] Leanne Elliott: Only to say, join us again on Thursday. We will have some kind of interview for you. As you know, our life has been very significantly disrupted, so we will have an episode. What it looks like, we're not entirely sure, but hopefully it'll be an incredible interview with an incredible guest, or maybe just some more insights into what actually working as a couple in business looks like. I can— how you handle that from time to time. But we will be back on Thursday and again next Tuesday
[58:50] Al Elliott: Yeah, quick shout out to Joel, Vanessa, Gary, Tim, Steve, Wrote, Richard, and particularly Jeff, who we unfortunately last Thursday had to cancel everything for the week, um, that's just gone. And they were so lovely about it and going, that's okay, these things happen. So thank you very much to all those people. Thank you for listening. And, uh, if you want to, you know, if you, if you haven't Listen to the previous episode. What, episode 201? Full story there. Lots of juicy goss
[59:17] Leanne Elliott: Yeah
[59:18] Al Elliott: See you next week
[59:19] Leanne Elliott: Love you
[59:27] Kristyna Hawkett: Bye
[59:27] Al Elliott: This is Truth, Lies and Work, where behavioural science meets workplace—
[59:31] Leanne Elliott: The award-winning. And we are doing something that I can't remember
[59:40] Al Elliott: Sorry. Yes. Yes. I was looking at how pretty you were in this camera. I'm just pointing at you. Carry on
[59:45] Leanne Elliott: Al, you're here for my mind
[59:47] Al Elliott: Okay
[59:48] Leanne Elliott: You have to cut that out. You can't say things like that these days. Those weak ties. How much those people would actually— sorry, I'm a little alone
[59:57] Al Elliott: Dunning-Kruger effect, is it? When you remember something like you're looking for a red car and No, Dunning-Kruger's when you think you know more. There's, if you're listening and you know what I'm talking about, there's something where if you, if you're gonna go and buy a red car, a red Škoda Karoq, then when it, then for the next 2 weeks you see red Škoda Karoqs all around. Don't know what it's called. Barden-Barden syndrome, we'll call it for now. Talking of cheese, no, of breaks, we are gonna go to a very quick one
[60:24] Leanne Elliott: Let's go and meet Kristyna and find out her top take. Do I need to do that last bit again?
[60:30] Al Elliott: Yeah
[60:33] Leanne Elliott: Yeah
[60:33] Al Elliott: Well, like, I, I honestly did say when, when Kristyna was, uh, gave us a hot take, she