# Where to find Steve and key takeaways

- **Episode:** [213](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/episodes/213.md) (2025-07-10)
- **Type:** outro
- **Tags:** contact, takeaways, summary
- **Time:** 43:27–44:41 (start 2607s)
- **Listen:** [https://truthliesandwork.com/213?t=2607](https://truthliesandwork.com/213?t=2607)

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[43:27] Steve Roest: It's pocdoc.co, P-O-C-D-O-C.co, or you can find me on LinkedIn. I'm Steve Roest, or on Instagram where I'm @SteveRoest
[43:37] Al Elliott: That was the amazing Steve. Go and listen to his podcast, link in the show notes. The 3 key takeaways for me was, first of all, you don't need to be the smartest person in the room to lead brilliant people. Secondly, your job as a leader is to set clear goals and challenge the assumptions, not solve technical problems. And third, screening for collaboration skills is just as important as technical competence
[43:58] Leanne Elliott: And this was the most important bit for me. Steve has invested time in designing a recruitment process that is specific to the jobs he's recruiting for, and the talent he needs to do them. It's not a one-size-fits-all CV sift and interview. It's evidence-led and fit for purpose. So with that in mind, it's no surprise that Steve finds the very best talent, or that PocDoc is one of the UK's fastest-growing health tech companies
[44:24] Al Elliott: If you're leading technical teams or you're thinking about hiring brilliant people, well, Steve's just given you a really practical framework to work with to attract, to This is Truth, Lies and Work
[44:38] Leanne Elliott: We will see you next week
[44:40] Steve Roest: Thank you