# Key takeaways: clarity, support networks, be more Bob

- **Episode:** [230](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/episodes/230.md) (2025-09-09)
- **Type:** other
- **Tags:** key-takeaways, clarity, support-networks
- **Time:** 40:09–42:33 (start 2409s)
- **Listen:** [https://truthliesandwork.com/230?t=2409](https://truthliesandwork.com/230?t=2409)

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[40:09] Al Elliott: Yeah, and it sounds a bit weird talking about ourselves on a different podcast, but the clarity bit in there I really liked. When you know what good looks like in your role, everything just feels a bit more solid because you can focus, you're more confident, and your manager actually knows what you're bringing to the table
[40:24] Leanne Elliott: Yeah, clarity isn't talked about enough, actually, especially in terms of role clarity, because when you don't have it, You end up completely second-guessing yourself all the time, and that's when it can become really exhausting
[40:34] Al Elliott: Yeah, exactly. And that links into the other thing we touched on, which is managers needing support too. If they don't have someone to take the pressure, it just ends up rolling downhill onto the team, and we've seen that happen quite a lot
[40:45] Leanne Elliott: Yeah, support networks are so important when you're a manager, whether that's your peers, whether it's a coach, whether it's just someone to vent to. Without that type of outlet, you are gonna feel it and your whole team is gonna feel it as well. Yeah
[40:58] Al Elliott: And then there was that reminder about the people you really do remember at work. It's not usually the loudest or the flashiest. It's the ones who make things easier for everyone else. The steady, reliable, decent people you actually want on your team. They are Bob. Be more Bob
[41:14] Leanne Elliott: Be more Bob. Be more Bob. If you did miss part 1 of that conversation and you just dove straight in with part 2, you rebel, uh, go back to our August episodes. I think it's number 224. And if you want more from Jon and Nick, of course you do, go and check out the Nerd Journey podcast. They've got a huge back catalogue. It is made for people in tech, but honestly, it's useful for anyone. And before we wrap up, I just wanted to say a little thank you. Al, I'm not even sure you know this yet, but we've just recently passed 1.4 million downloads this year
[41:45] Al Elliott: This year alone?
[41:46] Leanne Elliott: It's not—
[41:47] Al Elliott: and it's only September
[41:48] Leanne Elliott: I know, mind-blowing
[41:49] Al Elliott: It really is. Now, to be fair, it only happens because you lot You beautiful, beautiful listeners keep listening, you keep sharing it, and you keep sending us your questions, which is really, really important because we are going back next week to the traditional Tuesday episodes. So if you've got questions about workplace prep for the Workplace Clinic, please send them in. Just look in the show notes, you'll see our email there
[42:09] Leanne Elliott: You will. And as we talked about in that episode with Nick and John, the show has evolved over the years and we want to keep evolving, evolving it so it stays interesting and relevant for you. And we want your help with that. Tell us what you'd like more of. or who you think we should be talking to next, you can always find us on LinkedIn or just drop us a little message
[42:28] Al Elliott: Yes, I'll be back next week with a brand new episode of Truth, Lies and Work
[42:32] Leanne Elliott: Bye, love you. Bye
