# How managers appeal to younger workers

- **Episode:** [235](https://agents.truthliesandwork.com/episodes/235.md) (2025-09-25)
- **Type:** interview
- **Tags:** management, employee-engagement, younger-workers
- **Time:** 18:27–19:41 (start 1107s)
- **Listen:** [https://truthliesandwork.com/235?t=1107](https://truthliesandwork.com/235?t=1107)

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[18:27] Isabel Berwick: I think that people, I think you're right. People will go the extra mile once they've bought into the culture of the company. So, if you're in a professional, you know, knowledge worker type of job, the kind of people that are going into those jobs do want to buy in. They do want to go the extra mile. But I think there is something to be said around boundary setting or as a thing that wasn't a thing when managers who were in their 40s and 50s were young. And even if you don't do anything about it, just to be aware of it, And actually not to exploit your workers, you know, but to gain their trust, to communicate well, to listen to them. I think all of these are skills for the ages and it's not particularly generational, but it will help enormously with your younger employees that you're aware of where that generation is coming from. But I think you're right. You know, people going into the law or consulting or any of these things are going to be prepared for long hours culture. They have to be
[19:31] Al Elliott: And if they don't want You use this phrase in the book, which I love, called the accidental manager. I want to know, first of all, what is it? And secondly, how would we recognize an accidental manager?